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Episode 004: The Real Constraint in Your Shop Isn’t What You Think | Mike Payne
Apr 20, 2026·Ty Haguewood
Show Notes
Most shops don’t have a systems problem.
They don’t have a workload problem.
They have a leadership problem.
In this episode of the Threaded Leadership Podcast, I sit down with Mike Payne to break down what it actually takes to lead and scale a manufacturing business.
Mike came into manufacturing from private equity and M&A, then stepped into ownership himself when he acquired Hill Manufacturing. That outside perspective shows up in how he thinks about leadership, systems, and growth.
We get into:
* The mistake most owners make when trying to “work on the business”
* Why delegating too early can break your company
* The identity shifts required to go from operator to owner
* What actually keeps shops stuck under $1M, $3M, and beyond
* How poor hiring and promotions destroy culture
* Why the owner is almost always the bottleneck
* Practical ways to fix cash flow (including the 13-week model)
* How to think about hiring when you “can’t afford it”
* Real shop floor scenarios around leadership, accountability, and growth
This isn’t theory.
This is what actually happens inside real shops.
If you’re an owner, a leader, or someone trying to step up, this conversation will hit home.
Keep up with Mike:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/growingvalue/
Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UCP68uEoZKc_2z2dBjlZ1Vug
Hill Manufacturing: https://hill-manufacturing.com/
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